1. Antibody tests showing 4-20% antibody rate implying 80x the reported case numbers What does this mean? This supports point #3 below, the asyptomatic rate is 80-90%, that it has already been spreading for months and is largely harmless. 2. 99% of deaths are with 2+ comorbidities with a median age of 81. What does this mean? This means that the average fatality rate is incredibly low, if not only high for elderly populations which we should protect. 3. 80-90% of cases are asymptomatic What does this mean? that this also reduces death rate and that people below 65 will be fine. 4. Total Mortality is still lower nationally, globally What does this mean? That the deaths we are seeing from upper respitory infection are normal. If covid19 was making the world die faster, we should see an increase total mortality. For reference, 150k people die every day and 100k of those are age related (Point 1) 5. Covid deaths are rising, but still less than the flu and upper respitory infection deaths What does this mean? DO NOT COMPARE IT TO THE FLU. IT IS NOT THE FLU. This means that the deaths we are seeing are normal per flu season and that the points 1 and 2 will support that most people will be fine. 6. Lockdown for 18 months has a 10% effective rate What does this mean? People still think the lockdown is only a month or a few weeks. This shows them that it is a minimum of 8 months or a max of 18 months, which any reasonable person will agree that is impossible. If they Still think it should be locked down after, point the to point X where we go over economic damage. 7. Testing is weak, unreliable, inaccurate What does this mean? That Case # is going to increase, especially because the tests have an 80% false positive rate. The test can ring positive for the common cold. 8. Epidemiologists, virologists, medical staticians against lockdown What does this mean? That "not all doctors" advocate for lockdown. Doctors are not experts in economics and they are also not experts in infectuous disease. The people who legitimately devote their lives to studying viruses and disease argue against the lockdown. DO NOT JUST APPEAL TO AUTHORITY AND SAY YOU ARE RIGHT BECAUSE OF THAT. 9. Economic impact of shutdown What does this mean? This highlights how the negative impact of shutdown is significantly larger than the actual virus, even with its inaccurate and grossly exaggerated models. 10. Fake News What does this mean? Do not trust the media, as they are overhyping it and sensationalizing things without accurately reporting and in some instances outright faking information. Antibody tests showing high asymptomatic rate and low mortality https://www.businessinsider.com/nyc-residents-coronavirus-antibodies-study-cuomo-2020-4?op=1 https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/early-antibody-testing-indicates-far-more-covid-19-cases-lower-mortality-rate/2349275/ https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/17/santa-clara-covid-19-antibody-study-suggests-broad-asymptomatic-spread.html https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/20/838943211/73-of-inmates-at-an-ohio-prison-test-positive-for-coronavirus https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/494670-ninety-six-percent-of-inmates-in-four-state-prisons-who-tested-positive https://www.redstate.com/jenvanlaar/2020/04/24/florida-antibody-study-backs-up/ https://spectator.us/covid-antibody-test-german-town-shows-15-percent-infection-rate/ https://www.rt.com/news/486471-sweden-contracted-coronavirus-antibody-study/ https://www.foxnews.com/science/third-blood-samples-massachusetts-study-coronavirus https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/20/coronavirus-antibody-study-shows-covid-19-far-more/ https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8208613/Scientists-awaiting-results-thousands-antibody-tests-California-Colorado.html ===>99% comorbidities and median age of 81 and covid did not play role in death https://www.epicentro.iss.it/coronavirus/sars-cov-2-decessi-italia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0M4kbPDHGR0&feature=youtu.be&t=210 https://www.epicentro.iss.it/coronavirus/bollettino/Report-COVID-2019_17_marzo-v2.pdf https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19-Pandemie_in_Deutschland#Todesf%C3%A4lle_in_den_Medien https://www.nzz.ch/schweiz/coronavirus-in-der-schweiz-die-neusten-entwicklungen-ld.1542664#subtitle-wie-viele-infizierte-und-todesf-lle-gibt-es-second https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-18/99-of-those-who-died-from-virus-had-other-illness-italy-says https://web.archive.org/web/20200324214448/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/have-many-coronavirus-patients-died-italy/ https://swprs.org/rki-relativiert-corona-todesfaelle/ https://swprs.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/die-lage-in-norwegen.pdf ==>Death rate significantly lower, 80-90% of cases being asymptomatic https://www.repubblica.it/salute/medicina-e-ricerca/2020/03/16/news/coronavirus_studio_il_50-75_dei_casi_a_vo_sono_asintomatici_e_molto_contagiosi-251474302/ https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.02.12.20022434v2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBB9bA-gXL4 https://swprs.org/rki-relativiert-corona-todesfaelle/ https://www.niid.go.jp/niid/en/2019-ncov-e/9407-covid-dp-fe-01.html https://www.cybermednews.eu/index.php/it/health/70871-interview-to-the-virologist-giulio-tarro-the-death-rate-of-covid-19-is-less-than-1-as-confirmed-by-the-national-institute-of-allergy-and-infectious-diseases https://web.archive.org/web/20200325103650/https://www.wsj.com/articles/is-the-coronavirus-as-deadly-as-they-say-11585088464 https://www.repubblica.it/salute/medicina-e-ricerca/2020/03/16/news/coronavirus_studio_il_50-75_dei_casi_a_vo_sono_asintomatici_e_molto_contagiosi-251474302/ https://www.buzzfeed.com/albertonardelli/coronavirus-testing-iceland https://www.santepubliquefrance.fr/maladies-et-traumatismes/maladies-et-infections-respiratoires/infection-a-coronavirus/documents/bulletin-national/covid-19-point-epidemiologique-du-24-mars-2020 https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/17/a-fiasco-in-the-making-as-the-coronavirus-pandemic-takes-hold-we-are-making-decisions-without-reliable-data/ =====>Total Mortality still lower https://swprs.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/reppublica-treviso.jpg https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/30/covid19-yet-to-impact-europes-overall-morta https://swprs.org/open-letter-from-professor-sucharit-bhakdi-to-german-chancellor-dr-angela-merkel/ https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/30/covid19-yet-to-impact-europes-overall-mortality/ https://www.ecodibergamo.it/stories/bergamo-citta/a-bergamo-decessi-4-volte-oltre-la-medialeco-lancia-unindagine-nei-comuni_1346651_11/ https://www.santepubliquefrance.fr/maladies-et-traumatismes/maladies-et-infections-respiratoires/infection-a-coronavirus/documents/bulletin-national/covid-19-point-epidemiologique-du-24-mars-2020 https://www.euromomo.eu/index.html https://www.bbc.com/news/health-51979654 https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/coronavirus/italy-coronavirus-deaths-surge-by-627-in-a-day-lifting-total-death-toll-to-4032/ar-BB11tDnS https://www.faz.net/aktuell/gesellschaft/gesundheit/coronavirus/neue-corona-symptome-entdeckt-virologe-hendrik-streeck-zum-virus-16681450.html?printPagedArticle=true#pageIndex_2 http://www.gbe-bund.de/gbe10/abrechnung.prc_abr_test_logon?p_uid=gast&p_aid=0&p_knoten=FID&p_sprache=D&p_suchstring=820 Covid deaths and illness less than the flu https://twitter.com/ClimateAudit/status/1243019315462516736 https://influenza.rki.de/Wochenberichte/2019_2020/2020-13.pdf https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(19)30328-5/fulltext https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2095096/ https://milano.corriere.it/notizie/cronaca/18_gennaio_10/milano-terapie-intensive-collasso-l-influenza-gia-48-malati-gravi-molte-operazioni-rinviate-c9dc43a6-f5d1-11e7-9b06-fe054c3be5b2.shtml ==>Proof Lockdown has at best a 10% reduction in spreading and has no effect on total mortality **Spreading is 50% slower https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/q-a-similarities-and-differences-covid-19-and-influenza https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/17/a-fiasco-in-the-making-as-the-coronavirus-pandemic-takes-hold-we-are-making-decisions-without-reliable-data/ https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/q-a-similarities-and-differences-covid-19-and-influenza https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/03/20/national/coronavirus-explosion-expected-japan/ ==>Testing is weak, inaccurate, unreliable, deaths are stacked **Covid deaths now no longer requires testing, confirmation of covid actually in system https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/coronavirus/Alert-2-New-ICD-code-introduced-for-COVID-19-deaths.pdf **Covid19 shares same genetic profile of normal cold corona viruses https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2095096/ **Covid-19 tests test for same DNA in coronaviruses in common cold https://www.hopkinsguides.com/hopkins/view/Johns_Hopkins_ABX_Guide/540747/all/Coronavirus_COVID_19__SARS_CoV_2_ https://multipolar-magazin.de/artikel/coronavirus-irrefuhrung-fallzahlen https://www.secoloditalia.it/2020/03/coronavirus-la-gismondo-ammonisce-duramente-basta-snocciolare-numeri-sui-positivi-sono-dati-falsati/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSn_YaOYYcY https://www.heute.at/s/osterreich-bei-corona-todesstatistik-sehr-liberal-48665863 https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/sites/default/files/documents/COVID-19-safe-handling-of-bodies-or-persons-dying-from-COVID19.pdf https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/03/30/uks-attempt-ramp-coronavirus-testing-hindered-key-components/ https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/de/home/krankheiten/ausbrueche-epidemien-pandemien/aktuelle-ausbrueche-epidemien/novel-cov/situation-schweiz-und-international.html https://twitter.com/FScholkmann/status/1246122535793680386 https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/27/nyregion/new-rochelle-coronavirus.html https://coronadaten.wordpress.com/ https://multipolar-magazin.de/artikel/coronavirus-irrefuhrung-fallzahlen https://coronadaten.wordpress.com/ https://elpais.com/sociedad/2020-03-25/los-test-rapidos-de-coronavirus-comprados-en-china-no-funcionan.html https://swprs.org/rki-relativiert-corona-todesfaelle/ Epidemiologists, Virologists, Medical statiticans and doctors against lockdown measures https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UO3Wd5urg0 https://novuscomms.com/2020/03/31/a-view-from-the-hvivo-open-orphan-orph-laboratory-professor-john-oxford/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtzHH8DhgZM https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/how-to-understand-and-report-figures-for-covid-19-deaths- https://www.nzz.ch/wissenschaft/coronavirus-der-stammbaum-verraet-woher-es-kommt-ld.1548271 https://www.rubikon.news/artikel/der-corona-totalitarismus https://www.risknet.de/themen/risknews/covid-19-und-der-blindflug/ https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/eci.13222 https://swprs.org/open-letter-from-professor-sucharit-bhakdi-to-german-chancellor-dr-angela-merkel/ https://web.archive.org/web/20200330082928/https://www.sueddeutsche.de/panorama/coronavirus-news-deutschland-wolfsburg-laschet-1.4828033 https://www.infobae.com/coronavirus/2020/03/28/para-un-prestigioso-cientifico-argentino-el-coronavirus-no-merece-que-el-planeta-este-en-un-estado-de-parate-total/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6MZy-2fcBw https://swprs.org/open-letter-from-professor-sucharit-bhakdi-to-german-chancellor-dr-angela-merkel/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-uub0urNfw https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/The-evidence-on-Covid-19-is-not-as-clear-as-we-think https://www.cybermednews.eu/index.php/it/health/70871-interview-to-the-virologist-giulio-tarro-the-death-rate-of-covid-19-is-less-than-1-as-confirmed-by-the-national-institute-of-allergy-and-infectious-diseases https://www.zdf.de/nachrichten/zdf-morgenmagazin/julian-nida-ruemelin-zur-corona-krise-100.html https://www.clarin.com/buena-vida/coronavirus-panico-injustificado-dice-virologo-argentino-francia_0_yVcmJ4RM.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wfb-B0BWmo https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid#status-of-covid-19 https://www.radioeins.de/programm/sendungen/die_profis/archivierte_sendungen/beitraege/corona-virus-kein-killervirus.html https://www.tagblatt.ch/leben/ostschweizer-infektiologe-pietro-vernazza-die-zahlen-zu-den-jungen-corona-virus-erkrankten-sind-irrefuehrend-ld.1206440 https://en.globes.co.il/en/article-lockdown-lunacy-1001322696 https://www.deadlymedicines.dk/corona-an-epidemic-of-mass-panic/ https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0924857920300972 https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/20/opinion/coronavirus-pandemic-social-distancing.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBB9bA-gXL4 https://www.canberra.edu.au/uncover/news-archive/2020/april/covid-19-the-need-to-fill-the-spatio-temporal-data-vacuum Economic impact of lockdown **3% unemployment = 5.4 million dead http://www.econ.ucla.edu/tvwachter/covid19/LT_effects_STC_memo_vonWachter.pdf https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2020-04-01/virus-outbreak-creates-new-challenges-for-addiction-recover https://www.usnews.com/news/economy/articles/2020-03-23/fed-official-unemployment-could-hit-30-as-coronavirus-slams-economy https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/30/coronavirus-job-losses-could-total-47-million-unemployment-rate-of-32percent-fed-says.html https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/making-sense/how-the-coronavirus-economic-toll-could-also-affect-public-health https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5451921/ https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/1331677X.2018.1484788 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1732539/ ====>Fake News, Fake Hospital overload https://nypost.com/2020/04/01/cbs-admits-to-using-footage-from-italy-in-report-about-nyc/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pIMD1enwd4 https://www.nzz.ch/schweiz/tessin-verlegt-erste-corona-patienten-in-deutschschweizer-spitaeler-ld.1549417 https://www.divi.de/register/intensivregister https://www.heise.de/tp/features/Das-ist-keine-Krise-sondern-eine-Katastrophe-4694104.html https://www.nzz.ch/schweiz/tessin-verlegt-erste-corona-patienten-in-deutschschweizer-spitaeler-ld.1549417 https://www.intensivregister.de/#/intensivregister https://portale.fnomceo.it/elenco-dei-medici-caduti-nel-corso-dellepidemia-di-covid-19/ https://web.archive.org/web/20200328152430/https://portale.fnomceo.it/elenco-dei-medici-caduti-nel-corso-dellepidemia-di-covid-19/ https://archive.is/20200329015127/https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/27/chloe-middleton-death-21-year-old-not-recorded-nhs-covid-19-related https://www.handelsblatt.com/politik/deutschland/coronakrise-deutsche-krankenhausgesellschaft-wir-sind-besser-vorbereitet-als-italien/25651268.html https://www.ebm-netzwerk.de/en/publications/covid-19 https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/feb/20/britons-urged-to-get-flu-vaccine-as-critical-cases-rise-above-2000 https://www.aargauerzeitung.ch/aargau/kanton-aargau/erst-3-von-100-aargauer-betten-der-intensivstationen-sind-belegt-so-ruesten-sich-die-spitaeler-auf-die-epidemie-137332716 https://www.nzz.ch/schweiz/punkto-intensivbetten-sind-wir-im-tessin-besser-ausgeruestet-als-der-rest-der-schweiz-ld.1547728 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0M4kbPDHGR0&feature=youtu.be&t=210 https://insideparadeplatz.ch/2020/03/16/notfall-stationen-bereits-seit-tagen-am-anschlag/ https://sports.yahoo.com/spanish-football-coach-francisco-garcia-163153573.html ======= ---random bits--—-— ======= ===>Lung Intubation causing lung damage, no masks are used for ventilation https://www.doccheck.com/de/detail/articles/26271-covid-19-beatmung-und-dann =======>Pollution causing higher cases of lung infections https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/dec/09/steep-rise-lung-related-illness-hospitals-nhs https://ehjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1476-069X-2-15 https://www.heise.de/tp/features/Feinstaubpartikel-als-Viren-Vehikel-4687454.html ======= ---Protips on arguing.--— ======= Do not compare it to the flu. You will be written off. You are not here to "win" you are here to change minds so we can help people from economic and literal suicide. The Best approach is to find middle ground and argue for the Swedish, Japanese, Korean models where there is no lockdown but they protect the old, weak. This prevents the estimated 30% unemployment and 35m+ small businesses from being destroyed. Some people will troll, waste your time, or be repeating the argument of a troll. See if they fall into one of these categories: -Destroy - I am putting this first to warn you. People may want to attack you personally, whether in person or trying to make you lose your job. Hide all of your info. If you didnt and they try to, lawyer the fuck up. -Deflect - Shifting topic to other issues that are not related (Shift topic back to original discussion, tell them that theyre off topic comment is correct if you have to) -Delay - shifting topic to uncertainity, that we dont have enough info (ask why we are shutting down, economic damage if we dont have the info yet?) -Deny - Saying that your solution or ideas are wrong or wont work (show them sources. If they keep arguing, keep asking them to show them sources and if sources will change their mind. If they say no, give up, they are a lost cause) -Discount - discrediting you because you are not a doctor, etc "All the doctors say to lockdown and YOURE not a doctor" (show them the other doctors that agree with you, highlight that appeal to authority is not valid) -Deception - Outright lying, or reciting false information "This is worse than the spanish flu!" (call them out on it immedietly, but be polite. Remember, you are not here to win. If the lie is a part of a large statement, just quickly say it is wrong then address the rest) -Divide - Changing the topic to division based on religion, politics, gender, etc. "This is capitalisms fault!" (Tell them to focus on the issue at hand and refocus on commond ground) -Dulcify - agreeing with only a part of your statement but then disagreeing with your conclusion (Ask them how the conclusion does not follow and what they need to be shown to agree) -Discredit - Claiming you have bad intentions, dont care "you want the old people to die!" (highlight the skorean, japanese, swedish models. Talk about protecting the weak and old so the young and healthy can go back to work and that you are advocating for helping more people). -Deal - They will agree with your statement. Tell them you are happy because of this and that they should do the same. Link them the sources here.